Sebastian and Brandon post videos. Fined almost $3,000Tuesday, July 30, 2013 by: SooToday.com Staff
OF NATURAL RESOURCES
Harassing wildlife proves costly
Two men have been fined for harassing moose with vehicles south of White River.
Sebastien Fabris of Elliot Lake and Brandon Gerrior of Sault Ste. Marie (formerly of Wawa) were fined a total of $2,750 for chasing and harassing wildlife.
The court heard that on September 27, 2012, while driving on the Paint Lake Road, the two men chased and harassed a bull moose using a pickup truck driven by Fabris. Gerrior, who was a passenger in the vehicle, recorded the incident on his mobile phone and then posted it on the Internet.
Conservation officers from the Wawa enforcement unit were made aware of the video. During the subsequent investigation, officers discovered a second video showing Gerrior chasing and harassing another moose while driving a pickup truck.
Fabris pleaded guilty on July 18, 2013, and was fined $1,000 for his involvement.
Gerrior pleaded guilty on April 18, 2013, and was fined $750, plus an additional $200 for failing to change his outdoor card contact information.
On June 18, 2013, Gerrior pleaded guilty to the second harassment charge and was fined $1,000.
Justice of the Peace Jean Marie Blier heard the case in the Ontario Court of Justice, Wawa, on July 18, 2013.
To report a natural resources violation, call 1-877-TIPS-MNR (847-7667) toll-free any time or contact your local ministry office during regular business hours. You can also call Crime Stoppers anonymously at 1-800-222-TIPS (8477).
old-cat33 7/30/2013 11:29:47 AM Report
These clowns are real heros.
Sam C 7/30/2013 11:33:56 AM Report
I know many people have stories of Conservation Officers being a bit heavy-handed out in the bush, but this is certainly one case where the COs deserve a standing ovation and two thumbs-up!
25miller 7/30/2013 11:34:51 AM Report
They should of lost their truck also...Morons.
bounder 7/30/2013 11:35:58 AM Report
Actually they are good guys ,teaching moose to stay off the roads! The ministry who looks after the wildlife should be doing so.
nitrocircus199 7/30/2013 11:41:24 AM Report
That's what u get for bein so cocky Gerrior haha what a hero!
OMGWTF 7/30/2013 11:44:42 AM Report
bounder that's idiotic. Roads go through the wildlife's territory. Why don't you go to the road, find a moose, scare it then run from it as it chases you down the road. Yeah you get it don't you? You'd be scared to death, if you live long enough. Now you know how it feels.
25miller 7/30/2013 12:00:18 PM Report
"bounder 7/30/2013 11:35:58 AMReport
Actually they are good guys ,teaching moose to stay off the roads! The ministry who looks after the wildlife should be doing so."
These sounds like something a 3 year old would say...You going to teach them to sit,roll over,speak,etc.?I often wonder if people think before they speak ( type in this case ).
bounder 7/30/2013 12:05:17 PM Report
Miller ,actually they can be trained just like horses, so before you yap do a little research, I've probably forgot more than you will ever learn.
bounder 7/30/2013 12:09:51 PM Report
effect and affect, see what I did for you, gave you an effective post and I got an affective response. LMAO.
TFinn 7/30/2013 12:32:04 PM Report
Keep in mind folks ....the land belongs to the moose and any other wildlife out there.....they have always been the natural inhabitants of this land. They go where they deem the best for their situations.
Guys with the truck harassing them ….glad they were slapped, just should’ve been more ...grow up idiots ..!
Pete B 7/30/2013 12:33:52 PM Report
Your an idiot! you likely have not learned as much in life as most of us have, so anything you have forgotten has made you borderline retarded!!
frnlak 7/30/2013 12:46:32 PM Report
TFINN..Does your comment include bears in town or is it a hypocritical statement?
bango 7/30/2013 12:51:35 PM Report
All coming from people who probably call and complain everytime they see a bear in their backyard and live on outskirts of town. In that case if you've ever chased a crow out of your garbage then your a hypocrite. The real question is why are CO's so lazy they just sit on a computer now and watch videos...as an avid fisherman Ive been asked for my license once in 7 years.
zeke_1979 7/30/2013 1:05:33 PM Report
Laziness, really?!?!? If anything it's using a readily available tool. If you decide to act like an idiot and choose to post a video online for all to see, you get what you deserve. And making a comparison between chasing a crow and chasing a moose with a truck is stupid. Did you watch the video? I did. These yahoos chased the moose at high speed on a bush road, the moose was unable to get out of the way without injuring itself and was forced to run down the road. The fine should have been way more, and the truck seized.
25miller 7/30/2013 1:30:38 PM Report
Those actions would put a lot of stress on this moose and cause it to die.Why kill an animal just for your kicks?I just wish the fines were a lot more and take the truck they used to commit this crime.If you poach an animal they sure can take your belongings and whatever you used to commit the crime.
Dead End Kid 7/30/2013 1:56:23 PM Report
Someone should do the same thing to them and see how they would like it.
zick999 7/30/2013 2:00:21 PM Report
Just curious to know as i'm not a hunter or anything ... but why is it ok to shoot a moose/deer in the face/head/neck/heart ... BUT ... it's against the law to chase it with a vehicle. Don't get me wrong, I don't agree with what those kids did, but unless you don't approve of killing animals, it doesn't make sense to charge those kids. Then again what do I know, I don't hunt so maybe i'm not getting all the facts??????
TFinn 7/30/2013 2:17:59 PM Report
frnlak 7/30/2013 12:46:32 PM
Wild animals will do what they want and go where they need to go ...doesn't matter city or country ...they tend not to enter the city too often because of the fear of humans, dogs etc...!!
Stevie-E 7/30/2013 2:20:36 PM Report
I am curious to see if the people posting in defense of these guys are good friends or are completely clueless.
There's a big difference in protecting your home and family from bears, birds and other pests than to engage in a chase after a helpless and scared moose. I really wish the moose had turned around and charged the vehicle. These guys are bullies and cowards and should be tested.
It's one thing to hunt moose for the meat, and another thing to chase after it. If you can't see the difference then you have some issues you need to work out.
To those who said take the vehicle. I completely agree. This is cruelty to animals and a vehicle was used in this crime.
Idiots. Get a life.
zick999 7/30/2013 2:27:21 PM Report
Stevie I do understand people hunt for the meat. All i'm trying to say is ... what's the difference between shooting a moose in the face/chest/legs or driving over it with a truck. In the end you're killing it are you not??? By the way I don't hunt, nor do I have any interest in shooting one in the face ... OR ... driving over one with a truck. I don't think either of them are very humane. People hunt for the thrill of a kill ... these kids chased it with a truck to get the same thrill you hunters get.
TFinn 7/30/2013 2:29:54 PM Report
frnlak 7/30/2013 12:46:32 PM
Wild animal do not recognize human boundaries or their yards they wander around for a purpose ..easy food ….!!
So my statement isn’t a hypocritical statement ….or a hypothetical statement ….just a statement based on facts …that‘s all ..??
zick999 7/30/2013 2:33:17 PM Report
And I'm not taking the side of these kids, I think they are idiots ... i'm just saying you are both equally odd wanting to kill things for sport. Have a good time with your buddies drinking beer while you shoot moose in the head. I get the idea you want meat, i don't understand why you want to kill things. LOL. Like I said earlier in my post, what do I know i'm not a hunter, just looking at it from an outsiders point of view. You might think i'm weird cause I like to golf. Just my opinion
25miller 7/30/2013 2:55:16 PM Report
There is a huge difference from hunting an animal legal for the meat then harass an animal to let it run off into the bush to rot.It is also against the law to harass and chase any animal even with a truck.car.atv.etc.
zick999 7/30/2013 3:12:55 PM Report
I'm not talking about legal or not ... I'm talking about killing an animal period! Why would you want too??? The only reason I can think is hunters enjoy firing shotguns off and blowing a moose to hell. Otherwise, you would just go to your local butcher for meat. So, why do you think it's ok to shoot an animal as opposed to driving over it?? You're still killing it are you not?
Pakadeva 7/30/2013 3:34:08 PM Report
zick, no one HUNTS an animal for meat by chasing it in a truck, it is not edible meat if it's been a long chase!
I love moose steak, but, I don't believe in that kind of animal cruelty.
Camaro_Z28 7/30/2013 3:37:51 PM Report
the difference is a rifle is designed to put something down in the fastest amount of time.. for deere/moose a usually a .30 cal.. now who's to say a vehicle will do the job first try might be leaving an animal to suffer for hours, maybe days.. not to mention the damage rendered to a vehicle in which doing so
PrattStar 7/30/2013 4:06:37 PM Report
Hey Zick, where does that meat at a butcher's come from? I bet that moose I shoot for meat dies more humanely, after living a better life than any cow.
25miller 7/30/2013 4:14:13 PM Report
Where is the "LIKE" button?
moosie 7/30/2013 4:30:48 PM Report
why did they have to write formerly of wawa.
zick999 7/30/2013 4:47:56 PM Report
I agree with everyone ... i'm just saying why would you want to kill anything period? I love steak, it's my favourite food - i personally don't care how my butcher gets his meat as long as it's good. The only point i'm trying to make is what satisfaction does a person get out of killing a moose or deer at all? With a gun or truck?? So your meat is a bit fresher if you kill it yourself. LIKE I SAID, i'm not a hunter, I don't understand the whole killing thing.
sitka_archie 7/30/2013 5:07:20 PM Report
Zick- you're right. You don't understand.
Paddlenut 7/30/2013 5:44:39 PM Report
I relate to both Zick and others that view him as hypocritical. I think this is about ethics. I don't understand the hunting thrill personally, but I don't judge those that hunt. I enjoy my meat as much as everyone else, but rarely give thought to how it gets to me. Stories like these give me pause though.
I think it's analogous to the road kill experience. I don't eat Squirrel, but when one falls victim to my car despite my very best efforts to avoid it, I feel terrible. The squirrel is living its life as it knows, and is always on the alert for hazards, many of which they don't fully understand in the human world, such as cars and their speed and in their minds, what possible reason they could pose to their everyday lives, until that final scared frozen moment.
We've all experienced that. But these guys are the ones that see that squirrel as a target...and speed up.
a member 7/30/2013 7:33:30 PM Report
and what about Mary-Lou
zeke_1979 7/30/2013 9:12:08 PM Report
Zick, we hunt because we care where our meat comes from. We use rifles or bows because these tools can kill the animal quickly with minimal wastage of meat. We do not shoot moose in the face with a shotgun, nor do we blow them to bits as you seem to believe. We are not trigger happy assassins. And we definitely don't chase animals through the bush with a truck yelling at it. Hunters respect the animals they hunt. What these idiots were doing was neither respectful nor legal.
book-end 7/30/2013 9:14:20 PM Report
WTH !!! So if I video a Moose running or trotting down the road ahead of me , I am guilty of a crime ?
book-end 7/30/2013 9:21:12 PM Report
2 thumbs up zeke... Wild meat is best........ and sure does make eating Meat alot better. Atleast we know where this meat comes from !
zeke_1979 7/30/2013 9:40:43 PM Report
Book-end, if you're chasing the moose while filming it, yes, you are harassing the animal. If you watched the video these idiots posted on Facebook you would see the difference between filming an animal and harassing it.
Paddlenut 7/30/2013 9:43:09 PM Report
If you videotape a Moose running down the road, that's not a crime. If you chase a moose for nothing other than the joy of it causing it distress, then you"re guilty of being an idiot. And a crime too. But were that the case, most people here would label you an idiot, and it would be well deserved.
If you don"t understand the difference, then I also think that most people here don"t really care about your opinion, but you certainly have a right to express it...
Paddlenut 7/30/2013 9:43:49 PM Report
Thank you Zeke
I'm In 7/30/2013 9:52:04 PM Report
How would you like it if someone chased you down the road with a truck, what idiots seize the truck and increase that fine. I don't hunt either, but I know good hunters who respect their prey and the laws of hunting as one poster stated. Its their sport and they pay to do it in this country/province and when they give me wild meat and fish I know it was caught legally I am all teeth, continue the hunt hunters.
right wing 7/30/2013 9:58:24 PM Report
You need to visit a slaughter house where that that steak that you love so much comes from.
Get some education about where your food comes from and you will realize how much of a hypocrite you are being.
catmom 7/30/2013 11:18:35 PM Report
When I saw the that one of these idiots was Brandon Gerrior, all I could think was, "the apple doesn't fall far from the tree ..."
Pudelpointer 7/31/2013 12:57:14 PM Report
Zick, you are an idiot if you think your steak you bought at the grocery store came from an animal that had a better life than a wild animal. Do you really think it is humane to bring an animal into this world for the sole purpose of fulfilling your craving for steak? These animals are kept in cages, fattened up, shipped across the country in little crammed trailers, then sent to the slaughter house to watch each one of their buddies die in the line in front of them - just to feed your need for "tasty steak". Btw, many cows are killed with a shot to their head, then have their throat slit to drain the blood. But I've been to several slaughter houses and have seen this. This is why I choose wild game because my animals had a good life and were always humanely treated. You need to remind yourself that steaks come from animals - I feel like you are failing to see the connection.
zick999 7/31/2013 4:10:42 PM Report
Hey puddelpointer idiot ... where did i say once that the steak i purchase at my butchers was meat from an animal that was treated with dignity and respect. I pretty well know it wasn't. But i'm not going to kill my own cow because i thought if i did it in a better way it's ok. If you read my posts at all you would realize that i do understand you're meat is fresher hunting it yourself. MY POINT was why in the hell do people want to kill an animal period with a truck or bow or gun???? AND i said i don't understand because to me, killing something for fresh meat seems odd. There has to be more to hunting than fresh meat??? As i stated before the only logic i can come up with is the thrill of killing something. And using a bow, gun, trap, truck or a slingshot makes no difference. AND no i don't think these little punks that chased the moose is ok. Again, I'm not stating hunting is wrong, lots of people do it ... i just don't understand why?
zeke_1979 7/31/2013 6:14:59 PM Report
Zick - We hunt because it is a way of putting fresh meat in the freezer and on the table. It's that simple.
Where do you get the idea that hunters use vehicles to kill animals? These tools that posted the video weren't hunting, they were being idiots. What else would you like to know about hunting?
AndyCap 8/1/2013 9:14:50 AM Report
Why do you all pass judgement on these two fine men before you know the whole story? I happen to know that moose and he is a real low life. He broke into my Granny's house and stole her Oxy